u/8turuin

does loki as odin's son truly marvel's invention?

in the norse mythology odin and loki is blood brothers, but most people today know loki is odin's adopted son from mcu but even before i know mcu, i got introduce the idea of loki as odin's son from the mask sequels (the awful one with the baby in it) and i found a reddit post about american gods book call loki as his son.

i just wonder did marvel comics truly invent the idea or not?

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u/8turuin — 18 hours ago

[the boys] would homelander kill a person he viewed as father figure if they slapped him or it just hurt him personally?

homelander is very defensive if someone try to attack him but i wonder what will happen if edgar or james stillwell (madelyne counterpart in the comic) that he both view as father figure slapped him. would he kill them given he finally got some sort of reaction he wanted from them or will he cry like a child because he got rejected once again?

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u/8turuin — 2 days ago
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inanna depictions in 4A is controversial because you either got 1 group who fw it like me because it's disturbing in a good way (imo) or there's group that lost all hopes for the future directions of smt at that times something something like that, but we can all agree that inanna design isn't historically accurate for her character from the source material.

why innana is like that? well just like strange journey, atlus use the woman encyclopedia by barbara g walker for why inanna is mother goddess.

if you don't know what that book is, in the nutshell the book is saying that in prehistoric times, human society is peaceful matriarchy before being usurped by the violent nomadic patriarchy groups. the book's evidence is that some goddess is refered as "mother and their name include the syllables " ma" like tiamat reflecting the important of woman in hunter-gatherer society and later civilizations still continue this mother goddess trend in deities like maat, mary and kali MA.

(you probably familiar with goddesses with the 2 letter M & A thing if you played strange journey)

just to remember that barbara's book should never be taken seriously because it's tend to use speculations, assumption and it's been known as pseudo-history. 2 examples is that she's either mistaken or intentionally ignore that goddess kali and asura kali as the same entity and she's assert that abrahamic god surpress & absorbed the myths of what she called as the "white goddess" that popular in the ancient middle east with the removal asherah from the bible as evidence supposedly

if you still wonder what this all had to do with inanna depictions in apocalypse then get this: barbara argues that supposedly tiamat is a mother goddess that was once worshipped before her positions being usurped and slained by the patriarchal god marduk (basically she's saying that the genesis or creation in mesopotamian myth is propaganda by patriarchal society as a metaphor of transition from matriarchy to patriarchy society) and isthar or also known as inanna is an offshoots myth of tiamat who is a mother goddess.

and then like that we got that pregnant avian goddess i guess

if i had to assumes given tiamat was used again in smt VV, they probably want to do that in 4A but decides not to probably because redux was developed alongside smt 4A (i guess..) .

given atlus like to uses pseudo history & conspiracy theory for the themes in their games like devil summoners with jjcat theory and strange journey taking inspirations from woman encyclopedia by barbara g. walker, it's not really surprising if it's influencing 4A. hell with the unused concept of krishna in 4A being blond haired and white + odin mention that he and dagda used to be one same god (dyeus pther) does alluded that smt 4A was referencing the proto indo european theory thought that could be another discussions.

anyway that's all it is.

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u/8turuin — 15 days ago